tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21067023.post115929306809643897..comments2024-01-02T21:41:49.068-08:00Comments on Paul. Because 'Paul' is a nice name.: another rough one. skip it and have a nice week.FirstNationshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13387748372500478809noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21067023.post-1159531238824525002006-09-29T05:00:00.000-07:002006-09-29T05:00:00.000-07:00I can't think of anything original to say apart fr...I can't think of anything original to say apart from agreeing with every other comment posted here. The cult isn't big over here, so your revelations about its activities are shocking. *shudders*<BR/><BR/>Good on you, FN, for sticking the finger to them all - we're damn proud of you!Tamburlainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02284004546384496071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21067023.post-1159488010280175942006-09-28T17:00:00.000-07:002006-09-28T17:00:00.000-07:00smooches right back at ye!Youa re a tough woman, y...smooches right back at ye!<BR/>Youa re a tough woman, you can handle payback, which happens to be a two way street ;)Minkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04200778533362101678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21067023.post-1159472934563492462006-09-28T12:48:00.000-07:002006-09-28T12:48:00.000-07:00Projectile vomit? Have you not seen 'The Exorcist...Projectile vomit? Have you not seen 'The Exorcist'? Now it makes some sense. I will no longer regard it as over-rated out-dated shite but as a masterpiece of allegory and metaphor.krusty the bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04796461077371269318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21067023.post-1159399212723071342006-09-27T16:20:00.000-07:002006-09-27T16:20:00.000-07:00It seems odd to me as I read all these comments......It seems odd to me as I read all these comments....like, how is this shocking to anyone? Isn't this common knowledge? Folks believe in freakin aliens hitchiking on our souls and make you pay to be a part of their church, why would anything beyond that be in the slightest bit surprising? I was all puzzled, but then I remembered that not everyone had the good luck to be raised by someone who warned them against psychotic cults.<BR/>Thank you mommy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21067023.post-1159395941398659812006-09-27T15:25:00.000-07:002006-09-27T15:25:00.000-07:00claire: because his handlers with the church told ...claire: because his handlers with the church told him to. i imagine he wrote up a report on the upcoming script and they decided it was an enemy organization. if an organization has been deemed an 'enemy' you have to quit, immediately, or you end up in the same boat. happens all the time. when you 'join' you are quizzed on a whole list of organizations they have previously judged as enemies and if you have EVER belonged to one, or any of your relatives has, then yer out.<BR/>g: thanks. i actually have had good things happen to me. really.<BR/>ziggi: my daughter is the best thing that ever happened to me.<BR/>carmentza: thanks. nothing like youth and stupidity, yep!<BR/>danator: they arent that scary. but once they have personal info, they start with the various types of harrassment, and lots of people are very susceptable to that. anyway, independant thought and creativity are not real high on their list of things to be, and that helps.<BR/>helena: lots of times it was whiny, crying, shitfaced, tantrums...survival is not pretty. the only thing that kept me afloat? was rage. rage and hate.<BR/>don't expect political correctness here. i was no Bernadette.<BR/>you know, those things exist for a reason? and surviving shit is the reason. the trick is putting those tools down when they've served their purpose.FirstNationshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13387748372500478809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21067023.post-1159389732476024672006-09-27T13:42:00.000-07:002006-09-27T13:42:00.000-07:00Brilliant, articulate, warm, loving, creative, fun...Brilliant, articulate, warm, loving, creative, funny, strong, intelligent, witty...there a million words that immediately spring to mind about you but loser is not one of them. There's not a single commenter here who would disagree with that and we only have the privilige of knowing you through your posts.<BR/><BR/>To live (and i use the word advisedly - there are many who don't survive it) in an abusive relationship it tough - to have the courage to leave one is even tougher. To do it at the same time as leaving a sect which doesn't "like" people leaving, to live looking over your shoulder for years on end takes physical and mental courage of the sort that transcends mere survival instinct. <BR/><BR/>You're one hell of a woman!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21067023.post-1159387087985453772006-09-27T12:58:00.000-07:002006-09-27T12:58:00.000-07:00You know, when ever I pass their large groups of t...You know, when ever I pass their large groups of tables in the Times Square subway station, conducting "free personality tests, " or whatever they claim to be doing, and giving out the book I am seized with rage and disgust. I just <I>know</I> they are luring unsuspecting passers-by into their web. But what could I do about it? The more I learn about them, the more I realize that if I said boo they'd figure out some revenge, which is exactly what they want their skeptics and detractors to think, don't they?<BR/><BR/>And, for then record, in case I didn't make it clear in my last comments: YOU TOTALLY ROCK!<BR/><BR/>Big hugs.Da Natorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12192516325402230720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21067023.post-1159386359906585352006-09-27T12:45:00.000-07:002006-09-27T12:45:00.000-07:00FN, what everyone here said: You are no loser, on ...FN, what everyone here said: You are no loser, on the contrary, you are a fighter and a winner. I'm sorry you had to go through this stuff, we all go through crap of one type or another. Thank you for this great post, I had no idea they are like that.Carmenztahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11766983162057446234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21067023.post-1159376243727453612006-09-27T09:57:00.000-07:002006-09-27T09:57:00.000-07:00my god! I can't believe it - no I DO believe you, ...my god! I can't believe it - no I DO believe you, I just never realised that they could be that bad. You are a great survivor, you should be so proud of protecting your daughter and getting the hell out - and you are still doing good - every person you enlighten is a strike against them and those like them. You are the winner and definitely not a loser. XZighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14325808421083028026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21067023.post-1159375168492628892006-09-27T09:39:00.000-07:002006-09-27T09:39:00.000-07:00Ditto on the no idea of just how bad! But ditto a...Ditto on the no idea of just how bad! But ditto also on the admiration for you. For you have a lot to be proud of. You were young when this happened to you - it could've happened to anybody here under the "right" circumstances. <BR/><BR/>Good for you for taking control, but even more so by sharing it.Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16075495407192340894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21067023.post-1159373376778012662006-09-27T09:09:00.000-07:002006-09-27T09:09:00.000-07:00Add me to the column of "oh god, i had no idea". ...Add me to the column of "oh god, i had no idea". I knew they were a bunch of controlling assholes, but not to such a freakish degree. Good for you for getting yourself out of harms way and in control of your own life.<BR/><BR/>Makes me seriously wonder why Isaac Hayes quit SP. Hmm.clairehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00251854992291809671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21067023.post-1159370525598910162006-09-27T08:22:00.000-07:002006-09-27T08:22:00.000-07:00minka: woops, you slid in under the wire!you know ...minka: woops, you slid in under the wire!<BR/>you know what? thats exactly right. im paying back. and boy, do i owe! muchas smooches!FirstNationshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13387748372500478809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21067023.post-1159370419304810022006-09-27T08:20:00.000-07:002006-09-27T08:20:00.000-07:00mutha: good for you, i say. without those programs...mutha: good for you, i say. without those programs i would be lost or dead. you do important work and it makes a difference! <BR/>awaiting: do talk, ms awaiting! you've been through a fair chunk yourself and come through with total class, which is why i love you. btw, how is the found sibling reunion thing progressing????<BR/>MizB: thank you, my darling. keep nosing around...it makes interesting reading. if you happen across an account by a british woman who was held in detention in Florida for a sexual indescretion committed with another member DURING ASTRAL PROJECTION...yup. really happened.<BR/>mudlark: thank you. i don't think of myself as a loser now. but...the aryan nut? yeeesh! so sorry! wotta douche! <BR/>tim: funny fact-i was trained to score those. it's not a nut-cult generated thing, it's real as far as that goes, and theres a scoring equation you have to perform in order to get a result. then, they go through another office which 'reviews' the results and 'corrects' them before the 'oh my god you gonna die if you don't come right in now' letters go out. as a staff member, you are expected to swallow this kind of chicanery as a matter of course 'for the greater good'.<BR/>frobi: well done, tastee rat! fyi, its a really shitty book. but if you buy it, they count you as a member because 'if you read it you'll eventually join'. thats where their 'huge worldwide membership' numbers come from.<BR/>cb: thank you. the thing that kept me in was lack of enough self esteem to say 'this is bullshit' with 100% conviction, because i wasn't worthy of declaring such a thing, and trying to save my marriage with a baby on the way. to my credit, i never once believed the space nonsense. i know bad writing when i see it.<BR/>gse: that is despicable. and it is also completely in keeping with their policy. at the same time, the homeless are regularly turned away from their doors because they are 'downstat'- meaning they have no money.FirstNationshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13387748372500478809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21067023.post-1159370070903937412006-09-27T08:14:00.000-07:002006-09-27T08:14:00.000-07:00Inspiring.We all have shit behind us. It doensæt d...Inspiring.<BR/>We all have shit behind us. It doensæt do well to lock them in a closet. Through them out and prevent others from making teh same mistakes is the only way to find salvation.<BR/>You have to balance it out. For one person you have tormented in whatever way, warn 10 others now that you know what is going on.<BR/>And it seems to me, that you are doing real fine!Minkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04200778533362101678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21067023.post-1159364573876899942006-09-27T06:42:00.000-07:002006-09-27T06:42:00.000-07:00wowwhat CB said. I had no idea they were like that...wow<BR/><BR/>what CB said. I had no idea they were like that.<BR/><BR/>they were out in force in London after the 7/7 bombings 'helping'. What you say puts a whole new complexion on that.GreatSheElephanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06589100964804729527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21067023.post-1159353570344547372006-09-27T03:39:00.000-07:002006-09-27T03:39:00.000-07:00Damn. I had no idea about any of this. I knew the...Damn. I had no idea about any of this. I knew they were a bunch of whackjobs, but I didn't realize they were a bunch of evil, abusive, psychotically deranged, morally bankrupt whackjobs. I thought that kind of behaviour was only found in born-again-Christian cults.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, well done you. We love you darling, and to quote Lord Elrond, "you have shown remarkable resistance to [its] power."<BR/><BR/>ps. "Karma's a bitch. So am i." Brilliant. Well put.Moominmamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11750304448922417139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21067023.post-1159351714468489652006-09-27T03:08:00.000-07:002006-09-27T03:08:00.000-07:00They are always trying to get me to buy their crap...They are always trying to get me to buy their crappy book when I go to Poole High Street (Have you got time for a couple of questions?). I feel it is my duty to be rude & obnoxious to them. Usually questions about "free sex" sends them running.Frobisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139984461096994586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21067023.post-1159343562409093942006-09-27T00:52:00.000-07:002006-09-27T00:52:00.000-07:00I never realised the Soroptimists were such cunts....I never realised the Soroptimists were such cunts. Or did I miss something.<BR/><BR/>They tried to get me once, in Toronto. I'd never heard of the fuckwits, and I had an hour to kill, so I filled in one of their personality tests, and left my contact details (fortunately not a phone number). I got increasingly deranged letters telling me that the test proved that I was dangerously depressed (I was 17, isn't that normal?) and that only by chowing down on L Ron's gleaming pork submarine would I get better. What really turned me off was how huge and childish the handwriting was.<BR/><BR/>I salute you, FN. You've got bigger balls than any of them.Tim Fhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14681067872556519250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21067023.post-1159328845227823492006-09-26T20:47:00.000-07:002006-09-26T20:47:00.000-07:00FN, Of all the available adjectives, "loser" is pr...FN, Of all the available adjectives, "loser" is pretty much bottom of the list to describe you.<BR/><BR/>Your ex sounds like my white male supremacist. He had dealings with Them too, I found out. And stalked me for years. Work, home, inside, outside. They succeed in getting into your head even if they don't get you physically, don't they?<BR/><BR/>I'm so glad you gave it to him/them: with your independence, by winning, by being happy and healthy, and by giving your daughter and grandson a decent life.<BR/><BR/>FN 1000000 : LRH 0Mudlarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15245757313650716285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21067023.post-1159328763695206942006-09-26T20:46:00.000-07:002006-09-26T20:46:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Mudlarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15245757313650716285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21067023.post-1159326552026317562006-09-26T20:09:00.000-07:002006-09-26T20:09:00.000-07:00I agree with your comment to Kyah... self-loathing...I agree with your comment to Kyah... self-loathing <I>is</I> survivable indeed, man, I should know!<BR/><BR/>In no way are you a loser... I read this last night and was too fried to truly comment and I wanted it all to sink in... not sink in as in "Oh my god what a weirdo and what do I say to that?" but sink in as in "Oh my god what she went through and she is now so kickass and a fabulous and loving (and despite her tough talking ways) tender and sweet woman and mother and grandmother and wow!"<BR/><BR/>I am in awe of you and what you have survived and gone through... a true warrior I tell you! And thank you for the inside info, well as much of it as you can say or hint to, on the unmentionables. I have actually read up on them quite a bit and have always considered them a cult and am baffled how so many famous and seemingly well-adjusted people buy into that shit... shows how extremely dangerous it is...<BR/><BR/>I once read an interesting article linking them to Sonny Bono, perhaps his death, as he wanted out and his wife would have none of it and yet another article on a "plain Jane non celeb" woman who died at their hands in quite the gruesome way and yet they managed to escape prosecution... very chilling and man how happy am I that you are OUT AND AWAY from the freaks!<BR/><BR/>Bohemians everywhere applaud you and bow humbly before you! FO SHOO!Miz BoheMiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12684634451330079565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21067023.post-1159321221459358512006-09-26T18:40:00.000-07:002006-09-26T18:40:00.000-07:00Wow! You have been through alot and managed to co...Wow! You have been through alot and managed to come through shining with intelligence, strength, will, and a sense of wit and humor that is amazing!<BR/><BR/>I applaud you!Divianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06484640303658366940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21067023.post-1159316373589147002006-09-26T17:19:00.000-07:002006-09-26T17:19:00.000-07:00Speak on FN. Use any platform you find. I run a pr...Speak on FN. Use any platform you find. I run a program that promotes awareness about parental depression. Let's just say, Cruise and the folks aren't my favorite either.Muthahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03172749181642285989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21067023.post-1159314088017173522006-09-26T16:41:00.000-07:002006-09-26T16:41:00.000-07:00kyah: people should know that things are survivabl...kyah: people should know that things are survivable. even self-loathing! to be perfectly over the top. but true.<BR/>danator; i owe a lot to the Seattle Domestic Violence project for helping me learn how to protect myself and to establish a false identity and address, and also, suprisingly enough, to the psychos' mom. she knew what her son was and i think she fielded a lot of bullshit on my behalf. not that she loves me for it...! but still, credit where credit is due.FirstNationshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13387748372500478809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21067023.post-1159313271119597192006-09-26T16:27:00.000-07:002006-09-26T16:27:00.000-07:00Jeez M. Crow. I knew there was some serious power...Jeez M. Crow. I knew there was some serious power and looniness there, but I had no idea to what extent. Thank whatever-higher-being that you got out & are OK, and also thanks that this crazy shit is becoming more exposed every day.<BR/><BR/>How do you live on the run like that? I have no idea how you did it...Da Natorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12192516325402230720noreply@blogger.com